Umama- Gladys Mpepho, ngusihlalo wombutho obizwa
ngeUnemployed People’s Movement (UPM), enye yemibutho eqhanqalazo
eRhini/Grahamstown, eMpuma Koloni. UThembani Onceya, kwintsuku ezidlulileyo
ebebambe udliwano ndlebe noMaMpepho malunga nendima edlalwa yimibutho yokuhlala
(NGOs) ekuziseni umthetho eMzantsi Afrika.
Ungatsalela iUPM yaseRhini/Grahamstown
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Thembani:
Bendicela uzazise mama.
MaMphepho:
Igama lam nguGladys Mphepho, ndingusihlalo wombutho wabangasebenziyo
(Unemployed People’s Movement) eRhini/Grahamstown.
Thembani:
Kutheni nje wangena kulombutho?
Mamphepho:
Urhulumente wandenza ukuba mandingene kulombutho iUPM. URhulumente wasijikela
singabahlali, basiqhuba ingathi asizonto, benza izithembiso ezingazofezeka
kwaye bagqibele ngosinika ithemba lobuxoki. Ukuqala kwam ukuva ngalombutho
ndabona uAyanda Kota. UAyanda wayethetha nabahlai basePhaphamani esithi maba
“Toyi- Toyi” ukuba bafuna umbane ePhaphamani. Ndaya ndaqonda ukuba eyona ndlela
yokuba urhulumente angaziva izikhalo zethu kufuneka silwe ngokuba siyakuhlala kunjalo
ukuba asishukumi.
Thembani:
Imibutho yokuhlala (NGOs) isebenza ncakasane nemibutho yezentshukumo (social
movement). Ingaba lithini igalelolemibutho yokuhlala malunga nezokuzabalazela
umthetho oqilima apha eMzantsi Afrika?
Mamphepho:
Umna ngokuno-kwam andizithandi iNGOs ngokuba ndicimba ziyafana norhulumente
okanye imibutho yoburhulumente. Indima yayo kukugushuza izamana nenxaso
enokuthi iyinike imibutho yezoqhanqalazo kodwa lenxaso ihamba nendlela inqubo
ezakubangayo ngoko ke andisoze ndithi bayanceda ngokuba bayayilawula ipolotiki
yam kodwa abekho kulengxaki ndikuyo. Andiyazi ukuba njani bafune inxaso
ngaphandle kobukho bam kodwa bathi imali izakunceda umna. Asibikho kwingxoxo
kodwa bathi basebenzela thina kwaye abazi uzokusazisa ukuba kwenzeka ntoni
kodwa thina kufuneka sibazise ukuba senza ntoni. Andizange ndabona namnye
oweNGO kulandawo ndihlala kuyo nalopho sitoyi toya khona ngoko ke andinokuthi
ndiyayibona indima abayidlalayo ekuhlaleni nasekulweni uthetho apha eMzantsi
Afrika. Ndibavile abanye abantu besithi iNGOs ziyasebenza kwindawo abahlala
kuzo kodwa kuleminyaka mithathu ndikwiUPM andinokuthi ndiyibonile intsebenziswano
phakathi kwemibutho yokuhlala nengingqi esihlala kuzo. Baninzi abantu abazizi
tyebi kweziNGOs oko ungakubona ngemoto abaziqhubayo. Ndihleli ndizibuza ukuba
xa usithi ungumsebezeli wabangathathi ntweni, uphile njani kwimana xa oqabane
bakho bengamahlwempu, ingaba ivelaphi lemali yokuthenga ezimoto zintle? Urhola
malini umntu oyintloko kwiNGO? Phantsi kwezizizathu ndicinga ukuba bayafana nje
norhulumente nemibutho yoburhulumente.
Thembani:
Ingaba zikhona izinto ezincomekayo abazenzileyo?
Mamphepho:
I-NGOs ezisebenza nemibutho eqhanqalazayo zincedisa ngokukhangela ezorhwebo
ngenjongo zokuxhasa intshukumo ezizakwenzeka. Kubonakala ukuba ongxowa nkulu
ababathembi abantu abasokolayo ukuba bangayi-sebenzisa imali yabo ngendlela,
yilonto bekhetha ukusebenza nabantu abathile. Ngoko ke kufuneka sibulele ukuba
iNGOs zisinceda ngokuzisa imali yokwenza inqubo zethu.
Thembani:
Yinxaso enjani imibutho yezoqhanqalazo engayithanda kwiNGOs?
Mamphepho:
Ndiyabulela ngokuthi uwubuze lombuzo. Okokuqala, I-NGOs kufuneka zisebenze nathi
zingasebenzeli thina. Ukuba iNGOs zifuna ukunceda imibutho yezoqhanqalazo
ngezorhwebo kufuneka zingazi nohlobo inqubo ekufuneka iyiyo kunokuba sonke
kufuneka sinegalelo kwinqubo. Okwesibini, iNGOs nakunye nemibutho eqhanqalazayo
kufuneka ziqwalasele ukuba abantu abatyi ingcinga, amaphepha okucela imali kwaye
kubaluleki ukuba sazi abantu abanophila ngezibonelelo. Ndicinga ukuba iNGOs
zingancedisa ngokukwenza abantu babesemandleni okuzenzela izinto kwindawo
abahlala kuzo. Bendikhe ndathetha nenye inkokheli yaseRhawutini, ibisithi
umbutho wabo ngenxa yamancedo ezorhwebo bakwazile ukuthenga izixhobo zokuthunga
ezintlanu. Oko kuya komama abasebenza nabo ukuze bavule ishishini. Ukuba iNGOs
zinga ncedisana nabantu basekuhlaleni nakunye nemibutho eqhanqalazayo ekuqaleni
inqubo ezizakwenza abantu baphile kwisimo esihle lonto ingenza babebaninzi
abantu abangenelelayo. Okokugqibela, ndingathanda ukubona iNGOs zisuka
kulenyweba zikuyo, zize ebantwini, zingenelele kumzabalazo esijongene nawo,
silwe izinto ezingalunganga ezenzekayo kwindawo esihlala kuzo.
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